Questions to ask the Tulip Sniffing Calvinist! (Issue 61 page 24)
If the following is true: John Smith is deliberately foreordained to commit sin Is hated by God before he is born Is predestined to go to hell before he is born Cannot repent because God deliberately refuses to give him the gift of repentance Cannot believe because God deliberately refuses to give him the gift of faith Was not, is not and never will be loved by God in the slightest degree Was deliberately excluded from the group of people Jesus died for on the cross so that salvation was intentionally and for ever put completely out of his reach: Then, how is it John Smith’s fault that he will end up burning forever in the Lake of Fire? As you can see Calvinism is a WICKED & UNSCRIPTURAL IDIOTIC Doctrine! You’re a total MORON if you believe in it!
The Forgotten Five Points of Calvinism as Stated by John Calvin (Issue 61 page 25) 1) AMILLENNIALISM Calvinism is a FALSE teaching that has sucked in shallow students of the word of God for years! Calvinists are lazy Christians who follow MEN rather than the Scriptures, as you DON’T learn the five points of Calvinism FROM the Scriptures. Most Calvinists are also very lazy when it comes to reaching the lost & their lives certainly DON’T reflect any Biblical characters i.e. SOUL-WINNERS - Prov 11v30 …he that winneth souls is wise. Most Calvinists are also VERY arrogant & UN-teachable & do NOT strive even to want to be like the Lord in their characters. Calvinism is a hodgepodge/hotchpotch (for my UK & USA ‘friends’) mess of Bible texts taken out of context & wrongly divided, mixed with man-worship, plus an excuse not to witness & live for the Lord as one should, laced with cult tendencies, all of which, added together, produces effeminate ‘men’ who think they are something (Gal 6v3), strutting their stuff like little Pharisees & producing no good at all. They are as much help to the Body of Christ (If they are IN the Body of Christ that is?) as using a plastic hammer to fix a Boeing 747 aircraft engine.
Calvin’s ‘Eternal Decrees’ Overruled! (Issue 61 page 13) Johnny Calvin (The Protestant Pope of a Pope hating people!) taught that all of God’s decrees are ‘eternal’ (i.e. made BEFORE Gen 1v1) & unconditional! Here are seven of God’s decrees that were NOT ‘eternal’ at all, & they were all conditioned on FREE WILL… (Oh dear Johnny!) Jer 38v17 Then said Jeremiah unto Zedekiah, Thus saith the LORD, the God of hosts, the God of Israel; If thou wilt assuredly go forth unto the king of Babylon's princes, then thy soul shall live, and this city shall not be burned with fire; and thou shalt live, and thine house: (Oh dear Johnny!) 2 Kings 13v19 And the man of God was wroth with him, and said, Thou shouldest have smitten five or six times; then hadst thou smitten Syria till thou hadst consumed it: whereas now thou shalt smite Syria but thrice. (Oh dear Johnny!) Deut 25v19 Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy God hath given thee rest from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget it. (Oh dear Johnny!) Jon 3v4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown. (Oh dear Johnny!) 1 Sam 2v30 Wherefore the LORD God of Israel saith, I said indeed that thy house, and the house of thy father, should walk before me for ever: but now the LORD saith, Be it far from me; for them that honour me I will honour, and they that despise me shall be lightly esteemed. (Oh dear Johnny!) 1 Kings 20v42 And he said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Because thou hast let go out of thy hand a man whom I appointed to utter destruction, therefore thy life shall go for his life, and thy people for his people. (Oh dear Johnny!) 2 Kings 8v10 And Elisha said unto him, Go, say unto him, Thou mayest certainly recover: howbeit the LORD hath shewed me that he shall surely die. (Oh dear Johnny!) Good question for the Calvinist! (Issue 61 page 30) Job 9v29 If I be wicked, why then labour I in vain? If you are NOT one of the ‘elect’, you are wasting your time trying to ‘be good’, because you’re going to Hell anyway! If you haven’t bought a copy of Laurence’s book ‘The Other Side of Calvinism’, you NEED to!
Why I am NOT a Calvinistic TULIP Sniffer! (Issue 39 page 10)
Calvinists are MUPPETS! (Issue 71 page 5)
If YOU are a Calvinist, YOU are a MUPPET! It’s as simple as that! Not only CAN’T you read the Scriptures IN CONTEXT (1 Cor 2v13) nor RIGHTLY DIVIDE them (2 Tim 2v15), but you just FOLLOW MEN, star Calvinists are just narcissistic-egotistical-unscriptural-childish-bigots who are very shallow students of the word of God.If you do NOT read the Scriptures DISPENSATIONALLY, you will NEVER be able to understand them, & you will distort, pervert & bend Scriptures to try to fit your MAN-MADE doctrines! I’ve NEVER met a sound ‘doctrinal’ Calvinist nor Pentecostal yet! How teachable are you as a Christian? Are you humble & willing to change if proven wrong?
How about this for a great verse AGAINST Calvin’s ‘Limited Atonement!’ (Issue 48 page 2) 2 Pet 2v1 But there were FALSE PROPHETS also among the people, even as there shall be FALSE TEACHERS among you, who privily shall bring in DAMNABLE HERESIES, even denying the Lord THAT BOUGHT THEM, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. That what??? THAT BOUGHT THEM!!! Get it? How clear do you want it? Christ paid the way for the false teachers - LOST, false prophets – LOST… in fact He paid the way for EVERYONE including ALL the LOST souls who have ever lived! But from their FREE-WILL (Oh yes brother!!!) they CHOSE not to ask the Lord Jesus Christ to forgive them of their sins! Like I say, Calvin’s ‘TULIP’ is as unscriptural as the Jehovah’s Witness ‘annihilation!’ You want it, take it, but for us Bible Believers, we’ll stick to the SCRIPTURES as our FINAL AUTHORITY!
Anti-Calvin Verses! (Issue 49 page 3) 1 Tim 4v10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. Like I say, Calvin’s ‘T.U.L.I.P.’ is as Scriptural as the JW ‘annihilation’ doctrine or the Bible rejecter’s SOUL-sleep doctrine!!! There is NO SUCH THING as ‘Limited Atonement’ – if YOU believe it YOU obviously cannot rightly divide the word of truth…Calvinists CAN’T!!!
MORE Anti-Calvin Verses! (Issue 49 page 4) 1 Tim 2v4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. ALL means ALL!!! These Bible rejecting Calvinists will try to tell you that ALL does NOT mean ALL!!! Many Calvinists have trouble reading their Bibles!
EVEN MORE Anti-Calvin Verses! (Issue 49 page 5) Exo 12v3 Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house: Notice it does NOT say ‘just the ELECT a lamb!’ OR ‘every ELECT member a lamb!’ If ‘EVERY’ man didn’t take a lamb they were doomed!!! Predestination has NOTHING to do with UNBELIERVERS!!! Poor old Johnny Calvin!
OH NO, NOT ANOTHER Anti-Calvin Verse! (Issue 49 page 10) Mat 20v28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. Of course the anti-Scriptural-Calvinist loves this verse i.e. HIS LIFE A RANSOM FOR MANY! But can ‘many’ mean ALL??? Look at Rom 5v19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners...I thought EVERYONE was a sinner??? Rom 3v23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Therefore MANY in the Scriptures CAN mean ALL!!! (Well done for finding this one Dee Dee!!!)
ANOTHER Anti-Calvin Verse…there’s just soooooooooo many isn’t there folks! (Issue 49 page 16) 2 Pet 3v9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. This verse states that if you go to Hell you are GOING against the will of God! Not only that, but the Lord doesn’t want you there; HE didn’t create it FOR you - Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: Mat 25v41. God did everything He could to keep you out of Hell, the decision is now YOURS - For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Rom 10v13. Now of course the foolish Calvinist (who is NOT a Bible believer) reads the ‘us-ward’ of the verse (v9) as ‘us-elect!’ Now just STOP & THINK for a second about that! How can God be longsuffering to the elect…HE KNOWS THEY’RE GOING TO GET SAVED!!! ‘Longsuffering’ implies that God gives you so much time before His patience runs out. God’s patience doesn’t run out at all with the ‘elect’ under Calvin’s system! He KNOW’S they are going to repent, & they CAN’T REPENT UNTIL HE REGENERATES THEM!!! SURELY HE KNOWS WHEN HE IS GOING TO REGENERATE THEM???!!! And when He regenerates them, according to Johnny Calvin, THEY CAN’T RESISIT HIS WILL!!! So how can ‘longsuffering’ have anything to do with that load of foolishness??? You see Calvinist’s just can’t think for themselves! They send anti-Calvin material back to me because they CAN’T think FOR THEMSELVES – they are ‘programmed’ what to think by reading NON-SCRIPTURAL-CALVINISTIC-LITERATURE!!! Still want to call yourself a Calvinist…I trow not!! Let’s not be silly shall we!
To some Christians John Calvin is an ‘idol!’ (Issue 48 page 9) John Calvin was obviously a great man of God who did a great work for God, but it is also OBVIOUS that there are certain things he got WRONG! When I say it is ‘obvious’ I mean to a Bible BELIEVER! In one of our previous newsletters we tried to encourage a couple from Sunderland in the work they are doing; unfortunately the brother phoned me to thank me for the encouragement but then went on the ‘rampage’ telling me how good Calvin was; that I shouldn’t knock him, that I was wrong & he was right & whatever he said I should believe etc. etc. I fired back a few ‘doctrinal questions’ which he nearly choked on & then he asked to come off our mailing list! Not much ‘SOVEREIGN-GRACE’ there was there brother!!! He kept saying that we don’t have a free will (which is a Biblical term) but it’s by ‘sovereign grace’ (which isn’t a Biblical term) that we are saved! Silly boy! He finished up, after saying the word ‘GRACE’ millions of times during the conversation, telling me that NON-elect ‘babies’ go to Hell! Like I have said in previous newsletters, Calvin’s ‘TULIP’ doctrine is an evil doctrine & is certainly NOT Scriptural! I sent this ‘elect’ brother 4 tapes on Calvinism by brother James which are excellent; he sent them back the next day…IDIOT! Some Christians are just so shallow they’re transparent! This milk-sop baby was just another weak Christian with NO backbone! Here is an interesting fact about GOOD old Johnny Calvin… ‘The only real blemish on John Calvin’s record is the PUTTING TO DEATH of Michael Servetus (some blemish!!!), who was an Arian denying the Trinity & Deity of Christ’ I know we all make mistakes BUT??????? Would you follow Johnny Calvin & call yourself a Calvinist? Would you do to me what Calvin did to Servetus? DON’T answer that!!!
Yet ANOTHER Letter Fighting FOR Johnny Calvin! (Issue 48 page 10) We once also received another letter from one of Calvin’s followers, a lady this time, who thinks TULIP is not only a flower but a Biblical Doctrine!!! (How strange!) Aren’t Christians in a mess; it reminds me of the verses in 1 Cor 3v4+5 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? Today some people read it as… I am of Calvin, I am of Pink, I am of Darby etc. etc. How about you saying…I BELIEVE THE BIBLE AS MY FINAL AUTHORITY rather than following a MAN??? I believe in Eternal Security (see TfT News! Issue 31) but that doesn’t make me a Calvinist; that makes me a Bible BELIEVER!!! There’s a huge difference! Now if Calvin believed in Eternal Security he got one thing RIGHT!!! You can’t claim that Eternal Security is a Calvinistic doctrine…IT’S A BIBLICAL DOCTRINE! So weighing up the evidence, if Calvin got the ‘P’ right (i.e. P (predestination) = Eternal security in his T.U.L.I.P. doctrine) then Calvin got 20% right regarding this – that’s not a PASS rate in any exam! If you want to study Calvinism for a ‘FAIL’ be my guest! What is it with Christians & ‘tags’ & ‘names?’ In the Bible, Christians were happy with the name CHRISTIAN, why can’t you be? Why do you want to keep following a man & calling yourself after a man? John Davis is a Bible Believer; THAT’S IT! What are you? I am NOT Brethren, Reformed, Methodist, C of E, Pentecostal, Baptist, Presbyterian, etc… I AM A BIBLE BELIEVING CHRISTIAN, that’s all! No denomination has got a hold on ALL the TRUTH, they all teach some truth: I would probably believe something from ALL of them – so quit with ‘tags’ & ‘names’ & start standing upon the word of God (AV of course!) & place it as your FINAL AUTHORITY on all matters of faith & practice! I appreciated the comments of a man on our mailing list who lives in Bolton; he said that all he wanted to do was find out the TRUTH! That is what we should all want, THE TRUTH! So get yourself a wide margin Bible & a Strong’s Concordance & start reading, cross referencing, & making as many notes as you can! Every time you open up the Bible, ASK GOD TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE READING! Ask the Lord, from your heart, to keep you from ERROR… that way, you won’t get hay fever sniffing Calvin’s TULIPS!
Questions to ask a Calvinist! (Issue 52 page 8)
FACTS Calvinists WON’T Face!!! (Issue 52 page 10) Heb 2v9 says Christ tasted death ‘for every man’, NOT just for the ‘elect!’ – ‘Every man’ is ‘IN Adam’ at birth (1 Cor 15v22); not one of them was ‘IN Christ’, including the ‘elect’!!! The ‘elect’ were UNKNOWN by God until salvation (Gal 4v9). They were ‘chosen’ IN Christ (Rom 16v4) which means they had to be IN Him for them to be ‘chosen…IN HIM’ (Eph 1v4) You were NOT ‘IN Christ’ before Gen 1v1. If you were, you then got OUT of Him at birth & INTO Adam!!!...& then got back INTO Christ again at salvation??? The Lord is saying in Eph 1v4 that God decided, before Gen 1v1, to choose you IF you ‘wound up’ IN His Son! If you ‘wind up’ there, you got there by obeying John 1v12 & NOT a moment before!!! Rom 9v11 is NOT an ‘election’ to salvation AT ALL! Thousands of Jacob’s descendants went to Hell & weren’t ‘elect’ AT ALL! What you have in Rom 9-11 is an ‘election’ WITHIN an ‘election’ (Rom 11v5-7). Israel was ‘elected’ as a nation with ‘elect’ & NON-elect individuals in it! If you are really interested in reading about the ERRORS of Calvinism, you need to get the book ‘The Other Side of Calvinism’ by Laurence Vance (1991) More Calvinistic Claptrap!!! (Issue 62 page 6) Calvin wrote ‘We were as much ordained to faith in Christ before the foundation of the world as we were chosen to the inheritance of life in Christ!’ Scripture back up Johnny? None!!! Calvin, like James White, Smarty-Marty, Warfield, Pink, Lloyd-Jones et al, is a Biblical illiterate when it comes to understanding the way of salvation & rightly dividing THAT BOOK! No one in the Church Age ‘inherits life in Christ!’ Your heavenly inheritance is IN the New Jerusalem (1 Pet 1v4), & your Millennial inheritance is earned by works (Col 3v24, Luke 19v17). Calvin & ‘Calvinists’ don’t know what they are talking about regarding this inheritance! Johnny Calvin, as usual, misses the mark, along with his followers! God striving with man! Aren’t you glad He does?! (These poor shallow Calvinists!) (Issue 62 page 16) Job 33v29 Lo, all these things worketh God oftentimes with man, To bring back his soul from the pit, to be enlightened with the light of the living. These verses imply that God strives & struggles with unsaved men to try to get them to receive the Truth! Read Rom 2v4, 1 Tim 2v4, 2 Pet 3v9 etc. (Look up these verses!) Calvin & his followers haven’t a clue about God’s love & compassion for the lost when it comes to seeking out lost souls! Luke 19v10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. I thank God that His love extends to the whole world, to EVERY sinner & not just to the ridiculous notion of just the ‘elect!’ (I mean, what baby-Christian would believe something so ridiculous?)
Jesus Christ died for EVERYONE, that’s ALL of humanity NOT ‘just’ for the elect! (Issue 63 page 17) Heb 2v9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. (Not just the elect! Calvinism is HOGWASH!) 1 John 2v2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 2 Cor 5v14+15 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. (Not just the elect! Calvinism is a HOTCHPOTCH!) Rom 5v6-8 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Not just the elect! Calvinism is a-load-of-old-TOSH!) 2 Pet 3v9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. (Not just the elect! Calvinism is for MORONS!) 1 Tim 2v4-6 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. 1 Tim 4v10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. (Not just the elect! Calvinism is for BABIES like Smarty-Marty from Welcome Hall) READ also – 2 Pet 2v1, 1 John 4v14, Rom 10v13, John 12v47, Rom 11v32 & John 6v52 to quote but a few!
Calvinism – more pious Calvinistic CLAP-TRAP! Calvinism = TOTAL HERESY & is an ANTI-Scriptural doctrine! (Issue 64 page 4) Well we have put out Part Two of ‘The Other Side of Calvinism – by Laurence M. Vance’ on CD now – if you want one let me know! All I am doing is just picking out parts of his work & putting them on CD to inform & educate those who are IN the HERESY of Calvinism or those who think Calvinism is Scriptural, when it CERTAINLY is NOT!
ANTI-Calvinistic verse! (Issue 66 page 15) Rom 5v18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. Now either ALL means ALL in both cases or it doesn’t! Judgment & condemnation came upon ALL men because of the first Adam! The righteousness of Christ (the LAST Adam – 1 Cor 15v45) is offered to ALL men! Now the Calvinist will wrest that Scripture (2 Pet 3v16) (read also 2 Pet 2v1 for another enlightening Scripture that DESTROYS Calvinism DEAD!) & DISTORT that Scripture & try to bend that Scripture to fit his idiotic doctrine! If you STAY with the Scriptures you can see how ridiculous Calvinism really is! Like I have said many times, Calvinists are NOT Bible Believers, they are Bible twisters, distorters, & finally they ALL end up as Bible ‘correctors!’
More Calvinistic NONSENSE & PIOUS CLAPTRAP! (Issue 67 page 33) ![]() Mat 23v37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! The verse completely DESTROYS Calvin’s entire system! Here the will of God was REJECTED by the ‘sovereignty of man’, & IRRESISTIBLE GRACE failed to accomplish its purpose! God was willing to save the Jews, & they would have NONE OF IT! It was THEIR WILL that ‘left’ their ‘house’… DESOLATE (see v38!) When it comes to FREEWILL, Calvin’s system has no understanding or comprehension! Calvin’s T.U.L.I.P. is just a FIVE petal (FIVE the number of DEATH!!!) flower that is very poisonous indeed to those who sniff it! Welcome Hall, Manor Park & the rest of these unscriptural, anti-biblical churches, have bought into this SATANIC doctrine of Calvinism, & now they are not only deceived, they are spiritually DEAD!
The word ‘elect’ in Mat 24v22… (Issue 67 page 38) Mat 24v22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Most Christians assume the term ‘elect’ here is a reference to Calvin’s ‘election’ in Eph 1v3-11 (See Appendix 109 in RRB) But long before any Christian showed up in the Bible (Acts 11v26), ISRAEL was God’s ELECT! See Isa 45v4, 65v9+22 etc. The context here has been talking about the JEWS (vs15+16+20); there is NO reference to the Body of Christ anywhere in the chapter! The word ‘elect’ has at least FIVE different meanings in Scripture! Calvinism is for dummies, Bible illiterates & those that are willingly IGNORANT; it is NOT for Bible BELIEVERS! Calvinists avoid these Scriptures like the plague… Acts 7v51, 2 Pet 2v1, 1 Tim 4v10, 1 Tim 2v4 (Rom 5v18), Exo 12v3, Mat 20v28 (Rom 5v19, Rom 3v23) We thank the Lord that none of us here at Time for Truth! are TULIP SNIFFERS! Calvin’s TULIP always wilts & DIES under Biblical scrutiny! Anti-Calvinism Verse! (Issue 68 page 3) Ps 119v30 I have chosen the way of truth: thy judgments have I laid before me. WHO has chosen???
More IDIOTIC Calvinism! Calvinists just can’t rightly divide THAT BOOK! (2 Tim 2v15) John 6v44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. This is the great Calvinistic passage used by Calvinists & Reformed ‘theologians’ to prove that if ‘Irresistible Grace’ does not ‘draw you’ according to the doctrines of ‘Unconditional Election’ & ‘Limited Atonement,’ you cannot come to Jesus Christ. If you take this verse literally, then ALL UNSAVED SINNERS are ‘the elect,’ because Jesus is careful to tell you that He’ll ‘draw all men’ to Him (John 12v32 – the elect & NON elect!) The apostles in Acts are very careful to tell you that ALL of the Gentiles can repent & be saved, whether they are elect or NOT (Acts 11v18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life. But what Calvinist doesn’t take Scripture OUT OF CONTEXT?!!!) All any ‘non-elect-sinner’ on earth would have to do to become ‘elect’ would be to ask the Father to ‘draw him’ (S of S 1v4, Mat 7v7, Luke 11v9). Note also regarding John 6v44 that the reference is NOT to ANY Christian who showed up on this earth AFTER Acts 2: ‘I will raise him up at the last day’ (as in John 6v39+40). Calvinists misapply these verses to A.D. 33 – A.D. 2013, NOT REALISING that AFTER Christ was crucified (John 12v32), He drew ‘ALL MEN’ to Him. When God ‘granted repentance to the Gentiles,’ He certainly did not grant it just to the ‘predestinated elect AMONG the Gentiles’ (Acts 11v18). ANY unsaved man in THIS dispensation, who is mentally ‘responsible,’ will be held accountable for NOT accepting Christ! Note – Jer 31v3 The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. Here the ‘loved ones’ whom God ‘drew to Him’ were CAST OUT OF HIS SIGHT (Jer 14v16, 7v15, 15v1) for over 2000 years & burned, a million at a time, dying alone, WITHOUT Him or Christ (Eph 2v1-4, 1 Thes 2v15+16), & then pitched into outer darkness (Mat 8v12). No Calvinist gets that! Calvinists & Ephesians 1v4… Treat Calvinism like you would Rabies!!! (Issue 71 page 24) |