ERRORS of Hyperdispensationalism

The ‘Church of God!’ (Issue 74 page 5)

This is the Pauline ‘nomenclature’ (meaning the selecting of names for things in a particular field.  A body or system of names.  The term or terms applied to someone or something) for the Body of Christ (1 Tim 3v15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.) as found in Gal 1v13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it: 1 Cor 15v9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. (Note that the Body of Christ was PRESENT BEFORE Paul’s conversion! (Acts 8v3)  Get that hyper-diaper?)  The Church of God is the Body of Christ!  1 Cor 10v32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:  1 Cor 12v27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.  Eph 4v12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

 

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Ruckman on Bullinger & the Hyper-Diapers! (Hyper-dispensationalists) (Issue 74 page 6)

Regarding Acts 2 – Bullinger (Stam & Baker) are careful to inform us that Acts 2 is NOT the birthday of the Body of Christ, & that it is rather, the ‘rebirth’ of the ‘Hebrew’ Church!  This led Bullinger further out on the backside of the desert where he began to apply the new birth to Israel only (John 3v3-5), & consequently he taught that the new birth was not for this dispensation.  Stam & Baker cannot quite hack this, however, because Paul was plainly ‘born again’ (1 Cor 15v8); so the modern day half-hearted ‘Bullingerite’ BEGINS The Body of Christ with Paul! (NUTS!!!)  The ‘Stamites’ stumbling block is that a thing cannot exist before it is REVEALED!  Now there are a number of reasons for believing that the organic Body of Christ BEGAN in Acts 2, where every member of the LOCAL church (already established) was a ‘disciple!’…

1. In Christ’s high priestly prayer (John 17) He prayed for Peter, James & John to have the same position IN HIM that Paul occupied in the Epistle to the Colossians (cf. Col 1v27 & 2v10).If Peter, James & John were not IN the ‘church which is His body,’ then Christ’s prayer was of no avail!

2. The Body of Christ is to leave this earth in a moment, in the ‘twinkling of an eye,’ according to the same Epistle that states ONE BAPTISM put the believer into THAT BODY (cf. 1 Cor 12v13 with 1 Cor 15v49-55)

3. What would lead any Christian to suppose that the Body of Christ was formed ‘gradually’ from one man, when it disappears SUDDENLY with hundreds of men?

4. Granting Pentecost was a JEWISH Feast, & those speaking had no knowledge of any immediate message except to their Jewish audience, how does one explain ‘TWO wave loaves’ in the Pentecostal offering (Lev 23v17), but only ONE sheaf is found in Lev 23v11, where the resurrection of Christ is typified?If the OT Hebrew saint under the Law went up with ‘Christ the FIRST-FRUITS’ (cf. 1 Cor 15v23 with Mat 27v50-54), & were presented by ONE sheaf, what do you make of TWO in the Pentecostal Feast?

With GENTILE proselytes present in Acts 2 (v10) who are you to say that this didn’t constitute ‘Jew & Gentile’ (Gal 3v28) IN Christ, simply because God didn’t tell SIMON PETER about it AT THAT TIME?

The ‘middle wall of partition’ between Jew & Gentile was broken down 50 days before the Holy Spirit descended in Acts 2.  The fact that no one present is AWARE of the transaction means nothing at all dispensationally, for as late as Acts 3v19 Simon Peter is not AWARE of the finished Blood atonement for the salvation of the INDIVIDUAL, & to say that this meant it was NOT AN ACCOMPLISHED FACT (Heb 10v8-10) would be dispensational NONSENSE!

Acts 2v1-4 is the beginning of an era that will end at the Rapture.

Bullinger & Stam (plus Baker & Ballinger) all confound REV with ORIGIN & KNOWLEDGE with SOURCE!  They are so overwhelmed with the JEWISH aspects of the scene that they absolutely refuse to admit that anything could be taking place other than what the Apostles were AWARE OF!  It is apparent that this dispensation BEGINS with SIGNS & WONDERS exactly as the giving of the LAW was accompanied by these things.  It is also apparent that the context is the LAST DAYS (Acts2v20) of Israel & that no one present is AWARE of the forming of an ORGANIC BODY.  But from this, the hyper-diapers make a WRONG deduction!  Since the Church, which is His Body (Col 1v18) was not REVEALED to the prophets in the OT in their prophecies (1 Pet 1v10-12), it is taken for granted that this church could not START anywhere until it had been REVEALED!  This is more dispensational NONSENSE!  It is not REVEALED to the prophets in the OT that THE EATING OF PORK & LOBSTER WOULD BE LEGITIMATE, but what fool would think that Col 2v14 was not in EFFECT until Peter found it out in Acts 10???  (It was in effect after the crucifixion!) 

(Note also that ‘fillings’ of the Holy Spirit occur many times in the book of Acts WITHOUT any accompanying ‘tongues!’ Acts 4v8, 4v31, 6v3, 6v5, 7v55, 9v7, 13v52)

Just because Acts 2 doesn’t mention the ‘Body of Christ’ doesn’t mean it wasn’t THERE, neither do chapters 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, or 23, but Stam has the Body of Christ being formed well before Acts 23, so for him to use this argument shows what a spiritual NUT he was!  The ‘record’ of Acts 2 said NOTHING about believers being IN CHRIST or Christ IN THEM, but what does that mean?  Neither does Acts 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, or 20!  Are we to suppose that Christ was not IN Simon Peter after the prayer of John 17?  Why would the record of Pentecost say anything about something that NOBODY knew about till God SHOWED IT to Paul (Eph 3v15)?  Did the record of Pentecost tell them that pork was alright to eat?  Well, according to Col 2v16 they could have eaten it the morning they ate fish with Christ in John 20!!!  Hyper-diapers are NUTS!  They just don’t get ‘progressive Rev’ in Scripture!  It is not until Acts 8v30-37 that anyone grasps the significance of the Blood atonement for the sins of the individual sinner, but this took place more than five years before it was REVEALED!

 

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The Immaturity of the Hyper-Dispensationalists aka ‘Hyper-Diapers!’ (HD) (Issue 74 page 11)

A very immature Hyper-Diaper Christian from the US emailed me the following…

HD - I don't suppose you are pre-trib rapture are you? (as in the Body of Christ does not go through any of the time of Jacob's trouble?)  (Now there is a motive behind the asking of that question, & you’ll see that he proves to be totally puffed up with pride & arrogance sadly i.e. very unlike the Lord Jesus!  He also drops himself in it!!!)

MY reply… Yes I am pre trib!

HD - Rev 14v13​ And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.  Ha ha Mr. Davis, now I have you trapped.  Now you must admit that you can be "in" the Lord without being "in" His body. I'm sorry, but you can't imagine how funny I think this is.  (There you have it, ‘that’ made his day!  This is the kind of idiot that is doing NOTHING with his life except wasting valuable time!)

Sadly this arrogant young kid who WRONGLY divides the word of truth (the nut thinks the church started with Paul in Acts 9) is NOT interested in saving souls, he’s NOT interested in trying to stop people from going to Hell & he has no love for the lost as the Lord does, he just wants to play semantics & cause division & discord among the brethren… something that God HATES!!!  Prov 6v16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, AND HE THAT SOWETH DISCORD AMONG BRETHREN.  Now sadly this is the ‘product,’ the type of Christian that a Hyper-Diaper ‘church’ produces!  That is why NONE OF THEM achieve anything for the Lord!  They are just an arrogant bunch of Bible ‘perverters’ who cowardly hide behind their computer screens rather than getting out where the sinners are!  This kid who wrote the email has potential to do something for the Lord, but sadly he’s wasting his life ‘nit-picking’ & accusing Christians of things they did not say… what a waste of a life!  The Lord is NOT happy with such a useless life, & he will have to give an account of his life to Him!!!  (Terrible, tragic & VERY sad!  The kid will have many regrets when he stands in front of Jesus Christ, & so will those who taught him such heresies!)

To top it off, the kid can’t see the difference between being IN Christ PRE-Rapture & being ‘in Christ’ POST-Rapture which includes ‘works!!!’  Like I keep saying, not all the clowns are in the circus, some are on my mailing list!

Rev 14v13 does not refer to anything PRE-Rapture.  No-one is in the Lord now unless he is in the Body of Christ, by means of having the Spirit of Christ Who puts you in the Body of Christ, Rom 8v9, 1 Cor 12v13.  Those “in the Lord” in Rev 14v13 are those described in Rev 14v12 “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus” i.e. Tribulation saints (Mat 24v13) who suffer martyrdom, Rev 6v9-11.  They are “in the Lord” in the sense of not being in the beast’s kingdom by means of his implanted mark, Rev 14v9-11, 16v10.  The poor old Hyper-Diapers are just so wrapped up in their own little cult that they just can’t see out of their church windows into the real world!  The world is going to Hell & they want to argue among the ranks about ‘when’ the Body of Christ ‘started!’  Like I said, they are idiots, with a capital ‘I’.

PS - Nut-bar-hyper-diapers think that being ‘in Christ’ before Acts 9 and Paul’s conversion, is somehow distinct from being in Christ from Paul’s conversion onwards!  They do this in order to try to get around the hyper-dispensational nemesis Rom 16v7 “Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.”  This of course is stupid because Paul in Rom 16v7 obviously draws no such distinction!  Hyper-diapers think that Rev 14v13 is an argument for this!  I guess they have also opted for the error of a mid-tribulation rapture for Church Age saints, otherwise under their heresy, the saints in Rev 14v13 would still be in the ‘Body!’  As previously stated above, those in the Lord in Rev 14v13 are those that Rev 14v12 refers to who are not in the beast’s kingdom, Rev 16v10 because they refuse to take the mark, Rev 14v9-11 and many of them get martyred, Rev 6v9-11, which is the sense of Rev 14v13.  A further point can be made in that those in the Lord in Rev 14v13 are clearly those in the Lord’s ‘kingdom’ that comes into effect in the End Times after the Rapture of Church Age saints.  “And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night” Rev 12v10.  That is, in the End Times of great tribulation, the Tribulation saint of Rev 14v12-13 has absconded from the beast’s kingdom and is therefore “in the Lord” in the sense of being a subject of “the kingdom of our God” as it is come then and under “the power of his Christ” Mat 28v18.  Hyper-diapers are always WRONGLY dividing the word of truth (2 Tim 2v15) & wresting the Scriptures to their own destruction! 2 Pet 3v16.  Hyper-Diapers have a disease called ‘Paulitus’ & it can only be cured if they quit mixing with other infected men like Bullinger, Stam, O’Hare, etc.  We’ve had a number of Hyper-Diapers come off our mailing list because they can’t take the ‘strong meat’ of the word of God!

 

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 The ‘fake-humility’ Hyper-Diaper (Hyper-Dispensationalist) Kid from the US!  Poor ‘young’ Eli… (Issue 75 pages 5-8)

The ‘fake-humility’ kid from the US blew his gasket on the last newsletter & started ‘wrongly’ dividing the word of God as usual.  He’s just interested in splitting-hairs, causing division (something GOD HATES – Prov 6v16-19 – for some reason, old Eli-baby doesn’t get that, but then again NONE of the hyper-diapers get THAT!) & trying to act ‘superior’ to other Christians.  He’s a waste of time who is wasting his life!  Even after personal tragedy in his life, he still seems to think that the most important ‘thing’ in life is shouting his big-mouth off about ‘when the Church started!’  I mean, this kid has been brainwashed by the CULT he is IN.  He’s been ‘Hyper-tyzzed’ & just can’t see it!  He ought to get out there on the mission field, (something he has never even thought about & won’t even consider, because he couldn’t care less WHO gets saved!  Next he’ll be telling us he wants to be a ‘fireman’ – good boy Eli, good boy!) that would ‘man him up’ some!  Half of his ‘Blog’ (yes another one!) is all about ‘when’ the church started, as if that is THE most important ‘doctrine’ in all of Scripture!  These ‘Hypers’ are NUTS man, N.U.T.S.!!!  Hyper-diaper ‘churches’ produce this kind of kid i.e. one that is full of fake-humility who WRONGLY ‘hacks up’ the Scriptures to try to back up their HERESIES & bears NO FRUIT!  All they do is produce arrogant ‘know-alls’ (who actually know very little to be honest!) who achieve very little (if anything) for the Lord.  They ‘cut up, chop up, pervert & distort’ the Bible & force Scriptures to teach what they don’t, in order to back up their heresies!  The Hyper-Diapers are THE most useless bunch of heretics you’ll ever come across.  I thought Calvinists were the worst, but the Hyper-Diapers seem to have taken top spot!  If you come across one, DUMP THEM, don’t waste one second on this CULT!  They are so messed up in their ‘doctrines of devils’ & so twisted that in order to bury one, you’d have to screw them into the ground!

Eli is messed up on the covenant of Jeremiah 31, just as Calvinists get messed up on it.  It’s 2nd Advent, Hebrews 8v8-13. 

Eli is also messed up over the transitional nature of Acts.  Those baptized in Acts 2v38-41 still received the gift of the Holy Ghost and were saved as anyone having salvation today, 3000 being added unto them i.e. the apostles, Acts 2v41.  Eli is saying in effect – with no supporting scripture - that the apostles weren’t actually saved until Acts 9, which is stupid, also a blatant lie.  Eli hasn’t found anything out through the Holy Spirit, he’s just regurgitating what his CULT ‘church’ have taught him!  That’s what CULTS do, they brainwash you!

Eli’s notions, about ‘Acts 9 the beginning of the Body FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES. I could put $1,000,000 in your bank account and not tell you about it....it exists, but until you KNOW it is there, for all practical purposes that money did not show up until you knew about it’ is just plain stupid.  Wilkes Booth therefore never really assassinated President Lincoln because Lincoln never knew what hit him, according to Eli. 

Eli of course can’t make that deposit because he doesn’t know your bank details (and no doubt never will) so your bank account doesn’t actually exist for him to make any such deposit and never will.  Like I say, this punk-kid is the product of a CULT!  The Hyper-Diapers (diaper being a ‘nappy’, because they are a very immature bunch of heretics & poor old Eli has filled his ‘diaper’ now on a number of occasions, having no experience in the world or dealing with MEN!  He thinks that him & poor old mouth on a stick Herby was the ‘discussion’ of the century, I’ll leave it there & both are part of a bunch of losers!  Last time I had dealings with that dipper Herby, he wanted to discuss/debate about ‘race’, I wonder why? (WE KNOW darling!)  This moron of all morons (or is that Eli?) is one thick wood-wormed-plank who thinks he’s important, don’t they all!) Hyper-Diapers are just baby Christians who WRONGLY divide the Scriptures; they just hack them to death!

‘ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES’ is not the issue.  What saith the scripture? Romans 4v3 is the issue and Eli is woefully inept in that respect over the gift of the Holy Ghost Acts 2v38.

Eli is saying that Paul founded the church by appealing to 1 Corinthians 3v9-11 while listing Ephesians 2v19-20 that he clearly never read.  Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone.

Ephesians 2v19-20 reveals that the foundation for the body of Christ pre-dated Paul.  Paul alone is not ‘the apostles’, plural neither ‘the prophets’, plural in the passage!  (Poor ‘young’ foolish Eli!!!)

Eli then appeals to 1 Timothy 1v16 having forgotten Romans 15v16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost and Galatians 2v9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

Paul in 1 Timothy 1v16 is referring to those that he would minister to according to Romans 15v16.  Eli forgot the hereafter in 1 Timothy 1v16 as distinct from those who had believed hitherto, like the earlier apostles, Romans 16v7, see below.  (Eli seems to forget quite a lot, maybe he has ‘selective memory loss?’  CULTS are good at teaching this ‘strategy!’)

Eli then appeals to Ephesians 3v6, having forgotten that a Gentile was saved before Paul and therefore became a member of the body of Christ before Paul even though Eli professes to follow the Bible that contains the following scripture about the Ethiopian eunuch’s conversion.  The Ethiopian was saved before he got baptized.  Dr Ruckman’s Reference Bible has good comments on Acts 2, 3, 8 about the transitional nature of the early chapters of Acts.  (Poor ‘young’ know-it-all Eli blew it again!  That’s what you get for being a novice! 1 Tim 3v6)

Eli lied (again) in insinuating otherwise.  Doctrinal disputes are one thing.  Blatant lying is another because Thou shalt not bear false witness Romans 13v9. (Although that doesn’t seem to bother the CULT-member ‘young’ Eli for some reason?)  Again, Eli professes to follow the Bible that contains that phrase.  He’s not doing a very good job is he?  To be brutal, he’s not doing any kind of a job at all, except WASTING TIME & WASTING HIS LIFE, which obviously his parents are happy with & so is his CULT ‘church!!!’ 

Note it is thou mayest in what follows, not thou mustest.

And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest.  And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God Acts 8v37.

Eli appeals to Acts 3v19 versus Colossians 2v10-13, having forgotten that Peter is referring to national atonement for Israel at the 2nd Advent for forsaking God for Caesar as a nation, John 19v15, and murdering their Messiah, Acts 5v30.  See Hebrews 8v8-13 referenced above.

Eli goes to considerable lengths to ‘prove’ two kinds of being ‘in Christ’ by means of John 4v31-34, 6v55-57, 15v1-6 and then 1 Corinthians 6v15-17, 12v12-13, 18.  (Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. Mat 23v24)

Concerning the first i.e. bogus being in Christ as supposedly distinct from being in Christ according to 1 Corinthians 12v27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular note the following.

Eli still can’t handle Romans 16v7 that belies any notion of two kinds of being in Christ.  The scripture knows no such distinction.  As indicated earlier, Eli is making it up. (CULTS always do this kind of thing!)  See also remarks on Ephesians 2v19-20.  (Perhaps Eli should become a ‘make up’ artist for his vocation???  Get it?  I know, I know!)

Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me Romans 16v7 OUCH!!!

Eli lied again (& again & again…) about Revelation 14v13, having omitted the reference to Revelation 12v10 and its relevance.  Revelation 12v10 is obviously yet future and does not apply to Acts 1-8.  Because it is key, Eli ignored that just like the king of Ammon ignored Jephthah.

Howbeit the king of the children of Ammon hearkened not unto the words of Jephthah which he sent him Judges 11v28.

John 4v31-34 refer to doing God’s will but contain no reference to being in Christ.  Eli lied.

John 6v55-57 do refer to being in Christ but not in any way distinct from Romans 16v7.  Eli lied.

John 15v1-6 refer to abiding in Christ after the manner of Luke 22v28 Ye are they which have continued with me in my temptations though now it is different according to 2 Corinthians 5v7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:). 

Dr Ruckman in his Reference Bible has good comments on John 15v1-6 and certainly the passage does not refer doctrinally to the body of Christ 1 Corinthians 12v27 but neither does it refer to a distinct condition of being in Christ pre-Acts 9.  Eli has failed to show otherwise.  He underlined John 15v4, 5, which are central to his bogus ‘proof’ but as Dr Ruckman emphasises, John 15v4+5 are an on-going exhortation that is fulfilled spiritually after the resurrection.  The Lord promised this would happen and described how, John 14v16-17+26 and it did, for first time in Acts 2v38-41.

Different modes of receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost Acts 2v38 were in operation between Acts 2v38 – Acts 8v37 but were normalised from Acts 8v37 onwards for the remainder of the Church Age.  It was still the same gift, though, with the same effects.  Eli is in effect saying that pre-Acts 9 converts e.g. the other apostles and their converts couldn’t manifest the fruit of the Spirit Galatians 5v22-23 but they plainly did, e.g. joy Acts 5v14, 8v39. 

However, John 15v1-6 contains nothing that even remotely suggests a type of being in Christ from Acts 1-8 that is different from Acts 9 onwards.  Eli lied again.  Moreover, he has failed to produce any scripture to show how the apostles before Paul, had to have their salvation upgraded after Paul got saved, even though the scripture records a case where that had to happen for the 12 Jewish disciples converted under Apollos’ ministry, Acts 19v1-7.

In short, Eli’s whole hyper-diaper pitch is poisonous!   

“To top it off, the kid can’t see the difference between being IN Christ PRE-Rapture & being ‘in Christ’ POST-Rapture which includes ‘works!!!”

The Heretic writes… Actually, I am the one that gave the Biblical definitions of being “in Christ”.  You invented your own without supplying the verses. I am very strong on the Pre-Trib rapture.

Meanwhile, you acknowledge that in the Tribulation that people are “in Christ” but not “in the Body of Christ” because of the doctrinal differences in the dispensations. But that is exactly what I was saying. Those in Acts 1-8 were teaching Tribulation doctrine and works salvation—therefore they were “in Christ” in the same sense as Revelation 14:13 and not 1 Corinthians 12:12-18.

It is Eli who has invented the ‘first’ definition of being “in Christ” and wrested scripture to do it, 2 Peter 3v16.  See remarks above on John 4v31-34, 6v55-57, 15v1-6. 

Eli was not saying what I was saying i.e. he lied.  Acts 3v19 notwithstanding, nowhere in Acts 1-8 is anyone teaching Tribulation doctrine and works salvation and while accusing me of not supplying verses, he gives no verses to ‘prove’ Tribulation doctrine and works salvation for Acts 1-8.

The truth for those in Acts 1-8 is the exact opposite of Eli’s statement they were “in Christ” in the same sense as Revelation 14v13 and not 1 Corinthians 12v12-18.  Again, see remarks on John 4v31-34, 6v55-57, 15v1-6. 

Peter sums up salvation from Acts 1-8 as follows, noting how Peter’s statement actually includes both Acts 2v38 and Acts 8v37 even though the mode of receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost differed, baptism in water being necessary at one extreme but not at the other.  Salvation in Acts 1-8 depended essentially on believing on or in a name and only that, just as Romans 10v9-10 describes in more detail.  Tribulation conditions did not apply, much less works salvation and Eli has failed to show otherwise.

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved Acts 4v12. 

Tribulation doctrine and works salvation are not mentioned in Acts 4v12.  Eli lied.   

“No-one is in the Lord now unless he is in the Body of Christ, by means of having the Spirit of Christ”

You do not get into Christ by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Being baptized into Christ by the Spirit and the Spirit indwelling the believer are separate actions (if words mean anything).

Eli forgot Romans 8v9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.  Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 

Eli got it wrong again (what has he got ‘right’ yet???)

“Tribulation saints (Mat 24v13) who suffer martyrdom, Rev 6v9-11. They are “in the Lord” in the sense of not being in the beast’s kingdom by means of his implanted mark, Rev 14v9-11, 16v10.”

No, they are “in the Lord” in the sense that they are keeping Christ commandments and obeying the word of God as defined in John 4, 6, and 15. (Rev. 12, 14, 20v4, etc.)

Eli’s response is of course mere denial not refutation.  He cannot handle Revelation 12, 14, 20v4 doctrinally.  Eli refers to Revelation 12, 14, 20v4 but in fact seems unaware of what these passages actually say.

And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ Revelation 12v17 as the Lord’s Christ Luke 2v26 (watch the 13s) in contradistinction to false Christs Matthew 24v24.  John 4, 6, 15 do not explicitly cover that condition.  Eli lied again.  Note that Revelation 14v9-13, in addition to underscoring the testimony of Jesus Christ, contain specific warnings that Eli overlooked, which John 4, 6, 15 do not mention but must be followed as the commandments of God holding to the faith of Jesus in contradistinction to keeping the faith of the beast, Revelation 13v4, for tribulation salvation.

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.  Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.  And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them cf. Revelation 14v9-13 with Revelation 12v10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Again those in the End Times in the Lord are those that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus as distinct from those who worship the beast, Revelation 13v4, which is exactly what Revelation 20v4 states and which Eli missed.

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years Revelation 20v4.

The bold underlined phrases match those of Revelation 12v17, 14v9-12.  These are explicit conditions for tribulation salvation that Eli overlooked and do not refer at all to Acts 1-8 but instead to those in the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ Revelation 12:10 as that standing applies in the End Times.  They are therefore those who being martyred are described as Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth Revelation 14v13.

In sum, Acts 1-8 is not remotely connected to Revelation 12v17, 14v9-13, 20v4 with respect to conditions that apply directly to tribulation salvation.  Eli’s wrong associations of the scriptures are even worse than his wrong divisions of them.

In conclusion… My friend once had a dog called Eli & it got poisoned drinking from a CORRUPT waterhole!  Poor ‘young’ Eli above is doing the same, drinking from the poisoned waters of ‘Hyper-Dispensationalism!’  My friend’s dog was never the same again… now it’s DEAD!  There is a moral there!  Hyper-Dispensationalism kills SOUL-WINNING DEAD, it also KILLS your relationship with the Lord DEAD!  You become like a robot with no feelings & no love, but instead live with a critical-egotistical-spirit, that has NO pleasure in seeking a close walk with God, you just enjoy trying to ‘beat-up’ weaker Christians!  The Judgment Seat of Christ will be your downfall & you will realise then, the many regrets that you can’t see now!  Poor ‘young’ Eli is mixed up with a bunch of heretics & he just can’t see the wood for the trees!  Shame, because he does have a little potential if it was used in the correct way.  When a tragedy strikes your family, but you are still only concerned with writing ‘blogs’ fighting about when the ‘church started’, that’s the end of the road!  That shows your character – I.D.I.O.T.!

Hyper-diapers achieve NOTHING for the Lord!  They are only interested in FEEDING THE FLESH & trying to beat up weak Christians with their HERESIES!  Hyper-diapers have a very shallow relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. Because they don’t really know Him intimately (Eli still doesn’t get that sadly!)  They will read & read & study books ‘about’ the Bible. (Ecc 12v12) But when it comes to skilfully handling the word of God, they fall shy EVERY SINGLE TIME!  They live on milk rather than STRONG MEAT!  (Heb 5v12-14)  I thank the Lord that we have very few hyper-dispensationalists over here in the UK.  As I have said on many occasions, some of the BEST comes out of the US e.g. ‘Ruckman’ & some of the WORST comes out of the US e.g. CULTS like the Hyper-Dispensationalists!  When it comes to the UK & SOUND DOCTRINE & ‘rightly-dividing the word of truth’ (2 Tim 2v15) I have found that no one even comes close to Alan O’Reilly, to whom I owe a great debt!  He’s a guy who is full of grace, knows his Bible very well, & is able to DESTROY Bible ‘correctors’ & CULTS who raise their heads on occasions seeking whom they may devour!  I thank God we have Dr Alan O’Reilly here in the UK!

 

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The Bible Believers Guide to Dispensationalism – by David E. Walker (Issue 75 pages 14-20)

This is one of the BEST books I’ve come across regarding RIGHTLY dividing the word of truth.  Unlike the Hyper-Diaper-Cult heroes i.e. Stam, Bullinger, O’Hair etc. this guy knows his stuff & shows them up for what they are, HERETICS!  Here is an excerpt from that book… (Incidentally, we do stock it, if you want a copy!)

Their Founding Fathers

As detailed previously, hyper-dispensationalism (or ultra-dispensationalism) arose primarily from the teachings of E.W. Bullinger (1837-1913), and was later Americanized by J.C. O’Hair, Charles F. Baker, and Cornelius R. Stam (1908-2003).  Modern day “Bereans” believe those men “recover[ed] the truth of Pauline revelation.”[1]  The Berean Bible Society publishes the hyper’s periodical: The Berean Searchlight.

“Ultra” or “Hyper”                                         

Whether you use the Greek prefix (hyper) or the Latin (ultra), makes no difference.  Shelton Smith (editor of The Sword of the Lord) creates his own definition by differentiating between an “ultra,” and a “hyper” dispensationalist: “By my definition, an ultra dispensationalist is somewhere between a dispensationalist and a hyper dispensationalist.”[2]  Smith’s label is aimed at Bible believing, soul-winning Baptists, who reject the “saved the same” scenario.  Smith knows they are not “hypers,” but he disagrees with them; hence, the label “ultra.”

Classic hyper-dispensationalism is a dead end divergence that kills any real “Bible Study.”  Articles in The Berean Searchlight include such titles as: “Are the Twelve Apostles in the Body of Christ,” “No Other Doctrine But Right Division,” “Why Paul,” “The Confession of Sins,” “Paul, The Apostle of Grace,” “At What Age was Jesus Baptized,” and “The Devil and the Mystery.”

What is “Paul’s Gospel?”

Instead of “Paul’s gospel” including the message of salvation by “grace through faith,” (with an emphasis on the mystery of the body of Christ and the rapture) hypers attribute the doctrine of substitutionary atonement to Paul alone.  Ricky Kurth of the Berean Bible Society answers the question: “Did Philip preach ‘Christ died for our sins’ to the Ethiopian eunuch?”

It is tempting to think that Philip preached this to the eunuch when we read that he “preached unto him Jesus” from Isaiah 53 (Acts 8:26-35).  However, this message that was later given to the Apostle Paul (1 Cor. 15:3,4) had not yet been revealed.  Thus we know that Philip rather preached Christ according to the kingdom program.[3]

The “Issue”                                        

A person can easily be identified as a hyper by their unorthodox view of when the body of Christ began.  In fact, this is “the issue.”[4]

Stam states their position:

We believe, and are sure, however, that the present dispensation began, not with Peter and the eleven at Pentecost, but with Paul, to whom the risen, glorified Lord later reveled His will and program for our day. [5]

Ryrie correctly notes that most “Dispensationalists say that the church began at Pentecost, while ultra dispensationalists believe that it began with Paul sometime later.”[6]  Whether or not they hold to the “Acts 28” view (Bullinger), or the Acts 18 view (O’Hair) or the so-named “mid Acts” view (Acts 9 – Stam and Sadler) makes no difference.  They all add an extra dispensation between Acts 2 and Paul.  This is done to eliminate water baptism.  [Bullinger, and his followers also did away with communion since they only held Paul’s prison epistles (of which 1 Cor. 11 is not included) as doctrine for the Church Age.]

Ironside, in his classic pamphlet Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth, categorizes the errors of hypers who took Bullinger’s position:

1.     The “four gospels are entirely Jewish.”[7]

2.     The church in the book of Acts “is simply an aspect of the kingdom and is not the same as the Body of Christ.”[8]

3.     Only Paul’s prison epistles are Church Age material.  “Paul did not receive his special revelation of the mystery of the body until his imprisonment in Rome.”[9]

4.     “The entire book of Revelation has to do with the coming age and has no reference to the Church today.”[10]

[Note:  The fact that some of the doctrinal verses in Rev. 1-3 teach a person can lose his salvation imposes at least a primary application to the Tribulation, with a historical and devotional relevance to the Church Age.  See: Rev. 4:1- “things which must be hereafter.”]

5.     The bride of Jesus Christ is NOT the body of Christ, but “Jewish.”[11]

6.     “The Christian ordinances . . . Have no real connection with the present economy.”[12]

Ruckman outlines the teachings of hyper-dispensationalism as follows:

1. There is a period of time called “THE GRACE OF GOD” which began in Acts 9 (Stam, Baker, Moore, Watkins) or in Acts 18 (O’Hare and others) or in Acts 28 (Bullinger . . .

2. Water baptism is not for “THIS AGE” since “THIS AGE” began in Acts 9 or Acts 13 or Acts 18 or Acts 28.

3.  Bible-believing Baptists are heretics who do not follow PAULINE teaching (1 Ti. 1:16).

4.  Since Paul did not COMMAND anyone to be baptized, it is UNSCRIPTURAL.

5. Since Paul was not “SENT TO BAPTIZE,” water baptism is PRE-PAULINE (1 Cor. 1).

6. The “ONE BAPTISM” of Ephesians 4 automatically cancels water baptism .[13]

“In The Body Or Out Of The Body?”                 -

As we have demonstrated before (see The Transition Periods) the Bible does not “chop up” as neatly as the hypers would have you to believe.  They want the so-called “Dispensation of the Grace of God” to begin with Paul so they can seemingly get away from the different plan of salvation found in Acts 2:38.  Note Sadler’s flawed comment:

The early chapters of Acts are merely a continuation of the earthly ministry of Christ to Israel. . . We must ask, who of the Acts 2 persuasion, preaches Acts 2:38 as the terms of salvation today?[14]

Well, who of the “mid Acts” position (following Paul) preaches Acts 19:6 as the terms of receiving the Holy Ghost?  Biblical facts show four different “plans of salvation” (or “ways to get the Holy Ghost”) in the book of Acts before and after Paul’s conversion (see: Acts 2,8,16,19).  All four “plans of salvation” fall under ONE dispensation.  Hypers confuse the dispensing of truth with the revelation of truth during the transition from Jew to Gentile (see Romans 11) in Acts!

The beginning of the body of Christ is easy to determine when the Bible is taken at face value, instead of the understanding of men (i.e. Paul being “revealed” the mystery).  The way for the spiritual body of Christ was made at Calvary (Eph. 2:14-16), even though it “hinged” upon the glorification and ascension of His physical body.  While it found full manifestation on the day of Pentecost, it did not necessarily begin there, and certainly did not begin after Pentecost.  Ruckman:

The “ONE BODY” did not begin with Paul at all.  The verse (vs. 16) says that the reconciliation of Jew and Gentile (see “the mystery” given in 3:4-6) began at CALVARY: “in the one body by the cross.”[15]

Observe the following verses:

Eph 2:14-16

14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

Luke 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

Acts 1:4-5

4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.

5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost . . .

1 Cor 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

The fact that believers were “added to the church” (Acts 2:47), and also “added to the Lord” (Acts 5:14) before Paul’s conversion, indicate that the body existed prior to Paul.  [Stam does NOT comment on Acts 5:14 in his commentary,[16] nor does Sadler in his booklet The Historical Beginning of the Church!]  Additionally, 1 Cor. 12:13 proves that Paul was preaching the mystery of the body before Acts 18!  Other verses that prove conclusively that the body of Christ was present before Paul are listed below:

Rom 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Gal 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews’ religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:

Acts 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: . . .

Romans 16:7 is so clear that hyper-dispensationalists must make a difference between being “in Christ,” and “in the body of Christ.”  Joel Finck writes in The Berean Searchlight:  “Being ‘in Christ’ is not necessarily the same as being ‘in the body’ of Christ.”[17]  This is a grave inaccuracy.  Paul said that the Corinthians were “in Christ” (1 Cor. 1:30) and also that they were “the body of Christ.”

1 Cor 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

Galatians 1:13 and Acts 9:5 confirm that the body of Christ was on the earth as “the church.”  Otherwise, how could Paul (as an unsaved man) persecute Jesus when He was at the right hand of God?  Hypers assume that the body of Christ could not exist until it was revealed to Paul.  What they do not understand, is that revelation of a truth has nothing to do with the reality of the particular truth.  For instance, the death of Jesus was an atonement for individual sinners, even though it was not revealed as such until Acts 8.  Paul never said the body of Christ began with him, he only said that the “mystery” of it was “revealed” to him (Eph. 3:3,4).

What hypers eventually do is invent another “body” (one before Acts 9) called the “Kingdom Church.”[18]  Those in the “Kingdom Church” would include Peter, James and John.  Since Peter, James and John were baptized by the Spirit in Acts 2 (which would place them in the body), hypers are forced to “teach two or three baptisms of the Spirit.”[19]

Hypers fail to associate John 17:21 (“that they also may be one IN US”) with the promise of Luke 24:49 and Acts 1:4,5 (which see).  While Baker admits the apostles were baptized with the Holy Spirit, he denies that it placed them in the “body of believers, as described in 1 Corinthians 12:13.”[20]

Furthermore, hypers must get around the fact that Peter was writing to those “in Christ” (1 Pet. 3:16; 5:14), thus proving he was in the body.  Finck alleges that Peter uses the phrase “in a redemptive sense rather than the dispensational sense of being in the body of Christ.”[21]  He does this to discount Peter’s epistles for Church Age doctrine.

Hypers must also ignore plain references to other Jews (remember Paul was a Jew) living during Paul’s time that were said to be a part of the “one body.”

Rom 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

Finck comments:  “Paul is not saying in Rom. 12:5 that every believer living at that time was a member of the body of Christ.”[22]  Hypers invent a special class of “body mystery believers” converted under Paul.  According to their system Romans 12:5 might read this way: “So, those Gentiles who were converted after my conversion and revelation of the mystery, are one body, which is different than the kingdom body of Jewish believers who received a different gospel by Peter to the circumcision.”  They fail to remember that Peter’s GENTILE converts, were saved just like Paul’s converts (see Acts 10)!

“One Baptism”

Their attempt to prove the body of Christ is not in Acts 2 is not their only impairment.  They insist: “water baptism ends”[23] in Acts 28 with the rejection of the gospel from Israel.  They assert: “Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles, the teacher of the Church, never once commands us to be baptized with water?”[24]  They answer the question, “Should I be baptized” with:

While many pastors would say “yes,” the Apostle Paul says “no.”  Water baptism was once a part of God’s program for His people Israel, but it is not a part of God’s program for His people today, the Body of Christ.[25]

Although Paul never answered that question in his writings, hypers emphatically answer “in his name.”  Paul answered with his works (he was baptized, and he baptized others)!

They lump baptism in with circumcision (Jewish), miracles (sign to the Jews), healing, and tongues.  They think the reason Paul was “thankful” that he did not baptize any more converts (other than Crispus and Gaius) was because he was NOT to do any more baptisms.[26]  They believe Eph. 4:4,5 cancels out any water baptism for this age.

Hung Up To Dry

Below are the Bible answers to this anti-baptism (dry-cleaning) fixation:

Answer One

The commission in Matthew 28 is NOT distinctly Jewish, or the word “nations” would not have been used.   [All the confusion over the different “commissions” overlooks the fact that Paul is the only apostle that fulfilled the “Tribulation commission” of Mark 16:16-18 (all except drinking the poison).]

Answer Two

The mode of baptism in Matt. 28 is NOT the same as Acts 2:38.  All three names of the Godhead are used in Matt. 28 while only the name of “Jesus Christ” is used in Acts 2.

Answer Three

All three names (plural) are said to be a “name” (singular).  This is interesting, because in Acts 10:48 Gentiles are baptized by Peter, not in the name of Jesus Christ, but in the “name (singular) of the Lord” – “Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.”

Answer Four

Church history testifies to the fact of believers baptism (immersion) after conversion.  Hypers believe that the truth was missing all these years, and was finally revealed and “recovered.”[27]

Answer Five

Paul was baptized, and we are to follow Paul.  To this contention, hypers may respond, “Paul was circumcised too, but we should not get circumcised.”  This comparison is not justifiable.  For, Paul was circumcised as a Jew, but baptized as a believer in Jesus Christ.  Baptism was something NEW CONVERTS did!  Paul was a new convert, placed into the “one body,” and was baptized as a “new creature,” not a Jew or Gentile!  As Ruckman states, “Paul COMMANDED NO ONE to attend church, pass out tracts, proselyte Baptists who are already saved, or argue about water baptism.”[28]

Answer Six

Furthermore, Peter, James, and John were all baptized, and so was Jesus Christ.  Hypers claim that Christ’s baptism was his priestly “anointing.”[29]  They go to the Greek and are thereby confused with “washing” and “baptism.”  Jesus was not anointed as a priest on earth!  His earthly ministry was that of a prophet (John 1:25; 4:19; 6:14; 7:40; Deut. 18:18).  The priestly role of Jesus Christ took place after He died and rose again!  See: Heb. 2:17; 3:1; 4:14.

Answer Seven

Paul baptized his own converts, AFTER Acts 9!  The meaning of 1 Cor. 1:17 is clear if one adheres to the context.  A verse without a context is useless.  Christ did not send ANYONE just to baptize, but to preach!

Answer Eight

Just because the phrase “one baptism” is used, does not annul water baptism.  If it did, Paul would not have baptized anyone, and would have COMMANDED believers NOT to be baptized in water.

The context again clears up any misunderstanding.  Notice the framework is unity: “one another,” (vs. 2); “unity of the Spirit” (vs. 3); and seven “ones” in the passage (verses 4-6).  Paul is saying that there is only one “saving baptism.”  This would match Rom. 6:3; Gal. 3:27; Col. 2:12; 1 Cor. 12:13 and Matt. 3:11.  That must be the correct “interpretation,” since we know there are MANY “lords,” MANY “faiths” and MANY “spirits:”

1 Cor 8:5-6

5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Mark 3:11 And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God.

Confession of Sin

As alluded to earlier, hypers sever the word of God up into such thin slices, that ONLY Paul’s epistles (and maybe only his prison epistles) are allowed for Church Age doctrine.  Once that presupposition is taken, Peter, James, and John are not allowed in the body of Christ, although they are “in Christ” (1 Peter 3:16; 5:14).  To them, Peter’s epistles cannot contain ANY Church Age doctrine, nor can 1 John through Jude.

This brings us to an important question:  Should a Christian confess his sins to God for forgiveness according to 1 John 1:9?  While the hypers do not believe in sinless perfection (like some Holiness groups), they do, however, preclude a Christian confessing his sins, distort the Grace of God, and fail to understand the “standing and state” of the believer.

Hyper Ken Lawson, says that 1 John. 1:9 “has caused untold harm and detriment to the people of God.”[30]  He thinks a Christian should not feel guilty about his sins (after salvation) since “God wishes for us to enjoy the gift of salvation.”[31]  He claims that God will not “continue to show him [the believer] the cold shoulder”[32] if he “fails to confess wrongdoing.”

So, hypers do not believe a Christian’s fellowship with Jesus Christ is based on their personal, holy walk.  Lawson’s arguments against the “Father, son, relationship” understanding of 1 John 1 are as follows:

It is based on a performance system of conditional blessing, and shifted my gaze away from Christ and His grace to my own faithfulness (or usually failure) to confess.[33]

Repentance, and confession of sin (both of which hypers snub) are CLEARLY a part of the believer’s fellowship with God the Father, in every dispensation!  Peter had to confess his love to Jesus Christ, before he could be restored (John 21), and we are not any better than him!  Who (but hypers) would think that sin was not acknowledged (Ps. 51:3) with Peter’s three confessions in John 21?

Over and over again, fellowship (not salvation) is predicated upon repentance – the stem of confession.  Hypers do NOT believe in REPENTANCE.  Note the following verses:

Lev 5:5 And it shall be, when he shall be guilty in one of these things, that he shall confess that he hath sinned in that thing:

Isa 64:6-7

6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

7 And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.

Prov 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

Num 5:7 Then they shall confess their sin which they have done: and he shall recompense his trespass with the principal thereof, and add unto it the fifth part thereof, and give it unto him against whom he hath trespassed.

Lev 26:40 If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;

Neh 1:6 Let thine ear now be attentive, and thine eyes open, that thou mayest hear the prayer of thy servant, which I pray before thee now, day and night, for the children of Israel thy servants, and confess the sins of the children of Israel, which we have sinned against thee: both I and my father’s house have sinned.

Ps 32:5 I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the LORD; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah.

Ps 38:18 For I will declare mine iniquity; I will be sorry for my sin.

Josh 7:19 And Joshua said unto Achan, My son, give, I pray thee, glory to the LORD God of Israel, and make confession unto him; and tell me now what thou hast done; hide it not from me.

Dan 9:4 And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments;

Hos 5:15 I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.

2 Sam 12:13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.

Isa 6:5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.

Matt 3:6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.

1 Cor 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

Acts 19:18 And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds.

The last two references are during the “dispensation of the mystery.”  How do you “judge” yourself without confessing and repenting of your sins?  Answer:  you cannot, and some do not, therefore, they fall under the chastening hand of Almighty God according to Hebrews 12 (which hypers disregard for the Church Age).

The real Berean who “rightly” divides, (instead of “wrongly shredding the word”) will notice that the people who confess in Acts 19 do so under Paul’s preaching.  If they confessed publicly to men, you KNOW they had to confess to God!  In fact Paul attributed God’s presence to himself while he was preaching and teaching the word.

2 Cor 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

1 Thess 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

The next problem that Lawson has with the word of God, concerns prayer and honesty:

If what I believed concerning confession was true, I was probably ‘out of fellowship’ much of the time, and so were most believers.[34]

Yes, “most believers” are “out of fellowship” with the Lord, for only through a constant “cleansing of ourselves” (2 Cor. 7:1) through PRAYER (1 Thess. 5:17) can we be “in fellowship.”  Notice Lawson’s excuse: “I had to honestly admit to myself that I found it extremely difficult to confess all my daily sins on a consistent basis.”  So, since prayer and confession is “difficult,” hypers find scriptural alibis to disobey 1 John 1:7-9, as well as Paul’s command to “pray without ceasing.”

Note also, that the verse does not stipulate confession of every sin.  It simply states a fact:  When you mess up, you can go to the Lord, confess, and the blood of Jesus (the basis for forgiveness) will clean you.

Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Lawson (as all hypers do) reverts to Paul for a defense:

Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles, is silent in all his writings on confession of sins for forgiveness, parental or otherwise.[35]

Paul never forbad the practice either.  Should we not observe the omissions as well as the commands?  As pointed out earlier, Paul did NOT rebuke the Ephesians from “confessing” (Acts 19) when he preached.  In fact, Paul’s preaching pivoted upon the message of REPENTANCE (which is the heart of confession):

Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

Going further from the truth, Lawson tries to prove 1 John 1 is not relevant to a Church Age saint, because “A believer cannot walk in darkness any more than an unbeliever can walk in the light.”[36] Has he failed to read the favourite book of hyper-dispensationalists – Ephesians?

Eph 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

Eph 5:11-14

11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

If the Lord commands us to “walk as children of light” (Eph. 5:8), then obviously there are believers who are NOT “walking in the light.”  The “sleeper” in Eph. 5:14, is NOT an unbeliever, he is a Christian.  Paul often edified the believer to “walk in the light” instead of darkness:

Rom 13:11-13

11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.

13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.

1 Thes 5:4-8

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

While it is true that positionally, every child of God is “in the light” (in Christ, in heavenly places), practically 1 John 1 applies along with Paul’s epistles (Ephesians, Romans, and 1 Thessalonians) in a doctrinal manner to the New Testament saint.  [Hypers forget that good “sound doctrine” (1 Tim. 1:10) refers not only to the revelation of the “Pauline mystery,” but to BEHAVIOUR!  Read 1 Tim. 1:9]

Some hypers may not believe in “sinless perfection” (like some Holiness groups) but they do believe in “constant fellowship.”  Notice Lawson again:

If any believers were living in a state of broken fellowship, it was the Corinthians.

A. There were carnal divisions and contentions among them (1 Cor. 1:10-13; 3:1-3).

B. They were infatuated with worldly wisdom (1 Cor. 1:28-2:5; 3:18-23).

C. They were judging things which they should not and failing to judge things which they should (1 Cor. 4:1-5; 5:6).

D. They were allowing sexual immorality in the local church and were proud of it (1 Cor. 5:1,2).

E. They were taking each other to court before the unbelievers (1 Cor. 6:1-12).

F. They were visiting harlots (1 Cor. 6:13-20).

G. They were proud of their knowledge and causing weaker brethren to stumble (1 Cor. 8).

H. They were questioning Paul’s authority and apostleship (1 Cor. 9:1-6)

I. They were prone to idolatry by lusting after evil things (1 Cor. 10).

J. They had disorders at church, including making a mockery of the Lord’s Supper (1 Cor. 11).

K. They were enamoured with the spiritual gifts but were failing to exercise them in love (1 Cor. 12-14).

L. They were doubting the resurrection (1 Cor. 15:12-19).

M. If all this was not enough, they were stingy in their contribution to the poor saints (2 Cor. 8:9).

. . . . Moreover, there is no command to confess their sins in order to receive forgiveness and restoration to fellowship.  On the contrary, Paul assures them that ‘God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of His son Jesus Christ our Lord’ (1 Cor. 1:9).  It is a fellowship based upon God’s faithfulness.[37]

So, basically, Lawson is teaching that the immoral living Corinthians were in sweet fellowship with a holy God.  Anyone who can read the letter to the Corinthians from Paul, and get that summation, would probably think the Koran contains good marital advice!  Read the following verses and note how they drive at confession and repentance: 1 Cor 3:1-4; 1 Cor 3:17; 1 Cor 4:2; 1 Cor 4:6; 1 Cor 4:14; 1 Cor 4:18-20; 1 Cor 5:1-2; 1 Cor 5:6-7; 1 Cor 5:13; 1 Cor 6:5; 1 Cor 6:18; and on and on.

The very fact of their repentance (given in 2 Corinthians) stipulates confession:

2 Cor 7:9 Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.

2 Cor 7:11 For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.

2 Cor 12:21 And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.

Hypers teach Satan (not the Lord) burdens the believer with conviction of sin and guilt:

Guilt is a killer, a killer of our joy, our peace, and our enjoyment of intimacy with God.  If Satan can use guilt (which our Lord has already taken away) to use as a wedge to separate us from God, his strategy to take us as a captive in the battle is secure. . . . Our fellowship with Jesus Christ our Lord can never be broken.[38]

They disregarded Paul’s comment:  “ye sorrowed after a godly [not devily] sort” (2 Cor. 7:11), and the repercussion of broken fellowship in the life of the believer – the Judgment Seat of Christ.  Why the Judgment Seat of Christ, if a believer is never out of fellowship?  Adam was saved by “grace” and “the blood of a lamb” (Gen. 3:21) and he was OUT OF FELLOWSHIP with God!  Hypers abandon the distinction (“rightly dividing” right?) between the Christian’s standing and state.  Scofield appositely comments:  “Positionally he [the believer] is ‘perfected forever’ (Heb. 10:14), but looking within, at his state, he must say, ‘ Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect’ (Phil. 3:12).”[39]

This “unfatherly grace” of hypers culminates with a hollow answer to the problem of sin in the life of a believer:

. . . .even the most mature Christians do sin.  When this happens, the first thing to remember is our complete forgiveness in Christ Jesus.  This will prevent us from going on another guilt trip. . .[40]

Was the “godly sorrow” (2 Cor.) just a “low self esteem” guilt trip?  Or, was it true repentance and confession of sin?  Lawson continues:

When a Christian sins, we should agree with God’s Word that it is wrong (confess) and forsake the behavior or attitude . . . So we confess our sins, not in order to receive forgiveness, but because we wish to be properly attuned to grace and to thus glorify Him who has forgiven us all trespasses.[41]

What is all this “behavior,” and “attitude” garbage?  Is it Bible?  “We wish to be properly attuned?”  After writing two articles with the intent of impeding the confession of sin to God, Lawson says that we should confess our sins (but not for forgiveness)!  Do you think the Corinthians just “properly attuned” themselves, or did they actually CONFESS THEIR SINS because they wanted restored fellowship?  How could they “repent” without confession?  A hyper no more believes in repentance for today (Church Age) than he does sabbath worship.

Lawson’s conclusion about the doctrinal meaning of 1 John 1:9 is as shallow as a teardrop:

Our key verse in 1 John 1:9 is found to be a salvation verse for Israel looking for the return of Christ to establish His earthly, Davidic, Millennial Kingdom . . . In conclusion, 1 John 1:9 is a salvation verse which fits ‘hand in glove’ with the Prophecy program of the Gospel of the kingdom.[42]

If it is a salvation verse for Israel in the Tribulation, why is the word “all” used in 1 John 1?  Note: “all sin” (vs. 7); “all unrighteousness” (vs. 9).  Rev. 14:11 explains that there is NO REMEDY (confession or otherwise) for taking the mark of the beast.  A person will no more be washed from “all sin” in the Tribulation by the confession of it, than a person NOW can be saved by the golden rule!

If 1 John 1:9 is a salvation verse for Israel in the Tribulation, why are the believers in 1 John said to be “sons of God” awaiting the “appearing” (not advent) of the Lord.  No Tribulation saint will “be like him” (1 John 3) because no Tribulation saint will be a member of the body of Christ.

“The blood of Jesus Christ” did NOT cleanse anyone during the gospel of the kingdom message in Matthew, Mark or Luke.  1 John cannot be applied to Israel.  [This brings up a difference between the “gospel of the kingdom” prior to the cross, and “the gospel of the kingdom” after the cross, preached during the Tribulation.  In the Tribulation, the “gospel of the kingdom” will include the “faith of Jesus” (Rev. 13:10; 14:12).  That is, a person must believe that Jesus Christ is not only Messiah, but the Saviour.  Belief in the substitutionary atonement of Christ is crucial to a person’s salvation in the Tribulation period.]

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The heresies of hyper-dispensationalists produce such “deep Bible study,” that its adherents drown under its influences.  Their teachings are inconsistent with the scriptures, and manufacture Christians inactive.  Wining lost souls to Jesus Christ is not the “drive” of hypers, even though it was for the apostle Paul.  They are obsessed with stopping water baptism, and “following Paul” nowhere.  As Dr. Ruckman suitably summarizes:  “The only theme song they have is “How dry I am, how dry I am,” and their teaching and preaching is as dry as their baptism”

 

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Is Jesus Standing or Sitting? (Issue 75 page 33)

Acts 7v55+56 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.  Mat 26v64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.  (See also Mark 16v19, Luke 22v69, Eph 1v20, Col 3v1, Heb 1v3, Heb 8v1, Heb 10v12, Heb 12v2, 1 Pet 3v22) After he went back to Heaven the Lord Jesus Christ was seated on the right hand of God, yet, here in Acts 7 we see Jesus standing!  Why?  It certainly wasn’t because He was ‘receiving Stephen’s soul’ into Heaven! (Luke 16v22)  If Jesus ‘stood up’ to receive every Christian that died, He would be up & down every minute of the day!  He was NOT standing to receive Stephen’s soul!  Why is it that the ‘heavens open’ in Rev 4v1-3 & 19v11 in connection with the Second Coming, just as they were said to have opened at the First Coming in Mat 3v16.  How does one explain the immediate calling out of the Apostle to the Gentiles in Acts 8v1, following this incident?  Something happened in Acts 7, a demarcation line was drawn by God, which ALL POST-Tribbers haven’t got a clue about!  How does one explain the fact that not one single miracle ever took place in Jeruslem following this scence, although the apostles (with their SIGN-Gifts – Acts 5v12 etc.) STAYED IN JERUSALEM?  Interesting don’t you think!  What about that Bobby?  (I bet you’re learning a lot from this newsletter that you ‘don’t’ read aren’t you!  You don’t have to read it secretly Bobby, you can just sign up to our FREE mailing list…or is it PRIDE?  We do get em don’t we!  From Eli the kid who WRONGLY hacks the Scriptures to death, to Bob-the Boob who thinks debating is the meaning of the Christian life…bit like Whitewash ain’t he!)  Anyway, enough said, let’s get back to this fascinating study!  God draws a line at Acts 7v60, & this line is connected with the Second Coming of His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ (Acst 7v56).

Seeing this line, Stam, Moore, Baker, Ballinger, Bullinger, O’Hare & poor young Eli, all go wild with delight at ‘right division’ (2 Tim 2v15) & insist that the ‘Body’ must start AFTER this time!  Not one of these Hyper-Diaper-HERETICS is able to reconcile the date of REVELATION with the date of ORIGIN!  This CULT mentality insists that God’s change of program nullifies the possibility of anything being there BEFORE God changed it!  This is what we Bible Believers call… ‘Doctrinal ERROR!’ 

What we have here in Acts 7 & Jesus ‘standing,’ is a readiness for the Second Advent that would have triggered Daniel’s ‘Seventieth Week,’ IF the national response had been REPENTANCE (Acts 3v19) & an acceptance of Stephen’s sermon!  Remember, this is strike THREE for Israel in regard to the REJECTION of the Trinity! – They rejected God the Father – 1 Sam 8v6+7, God the Son – Mat 21v37-39 & here, God the Holy Spirit – Acts 7v51.

IF they had of repented & accepted Stephen’s message, Deut 21v1-9 would have gone into action, the Rapture would have taken place (Ps 50v4, S of S 2v10, Isa 26v19), Judas would have come up from the pit (Acts 1v25 see comments in RRB), & the covenant between Rome & Israel would have been signed (Dan 9v27, 11v27+30)

The ‘Body’ may have remained an UNREVEALED mystery, depending upon whether or not God decided to reveal it!  That it was ALREADY a Jew-Gentile Body is perfectly apparent from Acts 2v10 & Acts 6v1… (Get that Hyper-Diaper?  I doubt it!)  This also means that Calvin & his bunch of HERETICS (ALL Calvinists that is…!) make a gross ERROR in regard to the concept of ‘ETERNAL DECREES,’ for some of them (i.e. ‘eternal decrees’) are FLEXIBLE & can be ADJUSTED to meet the situation, without contradicting one former decree or one former oath i.e. God has a plan A & a plan B, knowing of course what WILL happen!  (You’ll blow your mind trying to figure it all out!) 

It also means Stam, Bullinger & poor little Eli are in ERROR because a Rapture HERE, would NOT have affected the ‘mystery revelation’ of that ‘Body’ (See Eph 3v15 in RRB), but the time of REVELATION hardly ever matches the time of INSTITUTION (see Gen 2v1-3)… something that the Hyper-Diapers just can’t seem to understand!  But more than that, the great dispensational shift here is missed by ALL the POST-Tribbers, Calvinists & Brethren cults!

Now that is fascinating folks, & I don’t know anyone apart from Ruckman who has seen/found this incredible truth!

Teachers like Stam, Moore, Baker, Ballinger, Bullinger, O’Hare etc. are just shallow students of the word of God compared to Ruckman; they’re not even in the same league, hence why kids like ‘Eli’ find it easier to follow ‘heresies’ than stay with the TRUTH of THE BOOK!

 

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